part 2 Philip K Dick 1971 interview

Part 2 Philip K Dick 1971 Interview

The Interview

Philip K. Dick:  Taping– I’m gonna stop– I’m gonna stop talking like that.  Talk real talk, like real people do.  Of course, see, I can’t– Are you taping?

James Holmes:  No, I’m not taping. (I was in fact taping while setting the levels for recording.)

Philip K. Dick:  I knew it.  I talked real talk for nothing.

James Holmes:  What’s real talk? 

Philip K. Dick:  Good evening, ladies and gentleman! We are speaking from Sunny Santa Venetia, the garden spot of the intellectuals of Marin county. That’s real talk.

James Holmes:  Test.

Philip K. Dick:  Test.  Good evening, ladies and gentleman.  This is Del Courtney paralyzed from the neck down forever, but still active and friendly, friendly like

James Holmes:  There are a few technical problems on my channel, but your channel is perfect. 

Philip K. Dick:  We’ll just hear the answers then.  Oh, like, how about “no.”

James Holmes:  Yeah, well.  You’ll be happy to know that at the end of the interview, when I go down into my room, I edit the thing and I change all the questions–

Philip K. Dick:  Certain questions you edit [laughter].

James Holmes:  — so it makes you seem like a complete fool.

[laughter]

Philip K. Dick:  Like, do you consider yourself an important writer?  I certainly do.  Changed to– Was Adolf Hitler a great man?  I certainly do.

James Holmes:  That is the sound of snuff inhaling by Mr. Philip Dick.

Philip K. Dick:  K. 

James Holmes:  What?

Philip K. Dick:  Middle initial K.

James Holmes:  Philip– 

Philip K. Dick:  K. Dick.

James Holmes:  K. Dick.

Philip K. Dick:   Like Robert K. Heinlein.

James Holmes:  Is it Robert– 

Philip K. Dick:  Isaac K. 

James Holmes:  Is that the way you prefer to be known to the world?

(Philip K. Dick. The K stands for Kindred. Philip Kindred Dick)

Philip K. Dick:  Only legally and professionally.

James Holmes:  Oh, only legally.  How come you never used a pseudonym?

Philip K. Dick:  Because I did once and they ferreted it out.  I was Richard Phillipps.

James Holmes:  It was Richard Phillipps?

Philip K. Dick:  Yes, a brilliant inspiration by somebody else.

James Holmes: [laughter]

Philip K. Dick:  Pressed for time, had a deadline– a long work day.  [laughter] I thought of the name Ernest Hemingway as a pseudonym, but– 

James Holmes:  Somebody got it.

Philip K. Dick:  No, I figured it wouldn’t sell too well.  People would think I had a beard and they wouldn’t buy my books

James Holmes:  I’m a little curious about your writing career.  For instance, when did you first start writing?

Philip K. Dick:  No, but I’m pretty passive in general.

James Holmes: [laughter] What was the first book that you ever published?

Philip K. Dick:  Solar Lottery.

James Holmes:  Solar Lottery and you never published short stories before that, or you–

Philip K. Dick:  Oh, sure, yeah.  I’ve published all kinds of short stories; hundreds of them.

James Holmes:  Hundreds?

Philip K. Dick:  Yes, a hundred and twenty two.

James Holmes:  A hundred and twenty two, to be exact?

Philip K. Dick:  Well, approximately.

James Holmes:  Ah.

Philip K. Dick:  That’s approximately a hundred and twenty two.

James Holmes:  When was– 

Philip K. Dick:  Could be 4 years or two hundred and fifty.

James Holmes:  When was your first work published?

Philip K. Dick:  In– Should I lay it on you?  Aunt Flo’s column in the Berkeley Gazette in 1942.

James Holmes:  In 1942?

Philip K. Dick:  Yes

James Holmes:  How old were you then?

Philip K. Dick:  Well, I’d have to calculate.  Let’s see, 20 to 30 – age 10.  I was approximately 11.

James Holmes:  Eleven years old?

Philip K. Dick:  Yeah.  Could have been 10 or 13.

James Holmes:  Were you paid for that?

Philip K. Dick:  Well, in a sense.  We got what were called credits, literary credits.  Like four literary credits for– 

James Holmes:  Is that like master points in bridge.

Philip K. Dick:  Well, we could trade these in at the end of the year on a funky dictionary, which I never bothered to do.  I just pedaled the credits, the literary credits, to my friends– 

James Holmes:  Who bought–?  

Philip K. Dick:  — for more literary credits.

James Holmes:  Solar Lottery was published when?

Philip K. Dick:  I think it was 1955.

James Holmes:  1955?

Philip K. Dick:  Approximately.

James Holmes:  Did you feel that was your big break?

Philip K. Dick:  As far as publishing a first novel, yes.

James Holmes:  Yes.

Philip K. Dick:  What do you mean my big break? I was already famous.  I was famous in 1953.  I published 27 short stories, 27 magazine-like stories in 1953.

James Holmes:  In 1953? Is that a record?

Philip K. Dick:  Yes, it was at the time, yeah.  I had stories in seven magazines in one month in June 1953.  I went down to the newsstands, and I couldn’t afford to buy the magazines that had the stories in them.

James Holmes: [laughter] Jesus.

Philip K. Dick:  But I got to look at the covers.

James Holmes: (I’ve included a couple of 1953 magazine covers with PKD listed on the front. While tracking them down I looked at what typical covers the artists were making then and who they might be appealing to. I’ll let you be the judge.)

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Part 3 Philip K Dick 1971 Interview